![]() I prefer the scaffold knot over the figure-8 knot to hold the quick link since it keeps it held tight and keeps it from rotating. I started off with a stopper knot at the end but untied it the first time I had to pull my rope down over a branch so that the rope could pass through the quick link, just never retied it since I usually only climb to around 20’ high and my rope is 36’. Just make sure that you can see the rope laying on the ground before you rappel down. If you’re referring to a stopper knot at the end of the rope so that you don’t rappel off, the I would say no. There are stopper knots, also known as backup knots, that would be tied at the figure-8 knot to ensure that it didn’t come untied, then there are stopper knots at the end off the rappel rope so you don’t go zipping off of it on the rappel. If I do not get one for Christmas I will be buying one and replacing my figure 8.Ĭlick to expand.It’s easy to confuse some of this terminology. Do yourself a favour and buy aīeal Birdie Belay Device - exactly the same as a GriGri or Madrock and an extremely competitive price. The one thing I found with the ATC is that it slightly binds on my way down and is not a smooth decent. make sure that your auto stop knot can never touch the figure of 8 or ATC as it will cause it to open and down you go. I tie a prusik knot below mine attached to my lineman's belt loop. KAILAS makes a nice light small one that's 30kn. There are different sizes and styles of figure 8's. Add on length that I like to put my tether (it get used as your tether) up as as high as I can reach (I'm a sitter, not a leaner) and my 50' of rope has about 5-7' on the ground when I lower it down with my crossbow before descending. DO NOT use a carabiner as side loading them will cause them to snap) and 6' for around the tree (it's less than that but that's what I allot for it). I would suggest that you use at least 40' (I use 50') though as you will need a bite of about 6' to make your figure of 8 knot and stopper knot to attach your delta quick link (or plain quick link, which is what I use. You will still get some twisting but it's fairly easy to come out in 30' of rope. The Beal is very smooth and locks in as nice as the Ropeman. I may back that up with a prussic at hunting height, which I know I should btw, but I haven't decided yet. I'll be using that this weekend since I'll be going up and down a more than once through out the day. ![]() On a side note since my setup for this weekend is preset no moving spots management hunt I bought a Beal Birdie tonight and tested that in my yard on the ground. It worked well to rappel with and my ropeman 2 works well with it too. ![]() I'll admit I have no idea what diameter rope I have because my arborist friend gave it to me for free. Your right hand stays on the prussic while rappelling and that controls your speed. If by some freak accident you're going down and you freak out or get knocked out when you release the prussic you stop. This allows the rope to feed through the atc without fear of the prussic getting jammed in it. I have a mammut atc clipped to my bridge and a prussic below it clipped to my lineman's loop. I tested it last weekend and it's about as simple as it gets for a safe rappel. ![]() ![]() I'm no expert but I looked at quite a few rock climbing sites and found this setup to be reliable in that world. ![]()
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